[Moon-Net] NO 73s for a "valid" contact!

Bart van der Worp bart at e-worp.nl
Mon Nov 21 13:13:41 CET 2016


Is in the digital age maybe this last RRRRR replaced by 73? And hence some confusion?

QRV in EME since yesterday ;)

73 Bart PA9WOR

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 21 nov. 2016 om 12:55 heeft Lars Pettersson <sm4ive at telia.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Complement to my previoues post
> 
> This is what we  CW neards often do as a "courtesy"    and as the last to tx i send PA5Y de SM4IVE    RRR 73 RRR 73 RRR   SK
> But as stated B4 73 not needed for complete QSO, 
> QRV on EME since stone-age
> 
> 
> Lars SM4IVE
> 
> 
>> Den 2016-11-21 kl. 11:54, skrev Lars Pettersson:
>> Gentlemen
>> 
>> IT has NEVER been a need for 73 for a complete QSO
>> 
>> a qso goes like this. in Ms or EME or what ever mode
>> PA5Y de SM4IVE   K
>> 
>> SM4IVE de PA5Y  OOO    (could be rst)
>> PA5Y de SM4IVE ROOO ROOO
>> 
>> SM4IVE de PA5Y  RRRRRRR RRRRRR
>> 
>> PA5Y de SM4IVE    RRRRRRRRRRR
>> 
>> QSO Comkplete end discusion
>> 
>> 73 are sent as a courtesy    But absolute not needed for a Complete QSO  END OF Story.
>> 
>> 
>> So if i want to thanks some one on any media after above was done with 73 and thanks for QSO  i dont see whats wrong with that.
>> 
>> Its much worse when stations send report on logger during QSO  thats absolute not allowed.
>> 
>> 73 De Lars SM4IVE
>> 
>> QRV on EME since stone-age
>>> Den 2016-11-21 kl. 11:23, skrev PA2V:
>>> Conrad, and others,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> IF 73’s are needed for a complete contact, most DX-pedition QSO’s are invalid, and quite some in the past with CW too.
>>> 
>>> Under difficult conditions, during piles and contest one don’t spoil time in the unnecessary 73’s.
>>> 
>>> I like to finish a contact with 73, but if it is clear to me that we have all details on both sides I count it as a valid QSO.
>>> 
>>> On HF with the many contests you will seldom hear a 73 in phone nor CW.
>>> 
>>> So simple is it!
>>> 
>>> 73, Peter PA2V
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> (Still very happy with my E44CM 432MHz EME QSO)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Van: Conrad PA5Y [mailto:g0ruz at g0ruz.com] 
>>> Verzonden: maandag 21 november 2016 10:51
>>> CC: Moon-Net <moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com>
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Moon-Net] Are 73s needed for a "valid" contact?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Well actually the thread has been somewhat hijacked. The original poster asked if 73 was required for a complete QSO. 
>>> 
>>> The emphatic answer is NO this is well documented and not really worthy of further debate.
>>> 
>>> I then gave a few examples of real world EME behaviour to help illustrate how things work along with a message to listen and observe and figure it out for oneself.
>>> 
>>> On the subject of the logger and its use in the contest if 73 is not required for a QSO then passing thankyou messages after a contact is logged is irrelevant. 
>>> 
>>> The only competitive advantage that I gained by using the logger during the contest was for allowed frequency announcements and as an aid to staying awake!
>>> 
>>> I will take these issues up with the ARRL privately before submitting my logs. If I am disqualified for sending tnx wishes on the logger AFTER a qso is logged then so be it. 
>>> 
>>> I did the contest to see what my station is capable of, I have answered that to my own satisfaction. 
>>> 
>>> Final score 206 x 84 = 1730400
>>> 
>>> Regards 
>>> 
>>> Conrad PA5Y
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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>> CW is still King!!!!
>> 
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