[Moon-Net] SPIDs

Lars Pettersson sm4ive at telia.com
Wed Nov 2 22:09:20 CET 2016


My 62 years old Brain decode CW despite my IQ :-) Who needs a MAP  to 
find the way to a QSO    LOL

73 Lars SM4IVE

Den 2016-11-02 kl. 21:08, skrev serge:
> Thank you Alex for correcting me. Yes the IQ+ does not decode but 
> MAP65 does. However for map65 to decode it requires signal from the 
> IQ+ so it is really a play on words.
> What I should have said is the following  The combination of the IQ+ & 
> MAP65 does not decode as well as my 40 year old ICOM 275A & WSJT 7.
> I will try to do what you suggested regarding more gain at the input 
> of the IQ+.
> Thank you Alex always a pleasure to hear from you
> Serge VE1KG
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Alex Artieda <mailto:hb9dri at emeham.com>
>     *To:* 'serge' <mailto:ve1kg at eastlink.ca> ; 'Peter Connors'
>     <mailto:sronnocfp at gmail.com> ; moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com
>     <mailto:moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:58 PM
>     *Subject:* RE: [Moon-Net] SPIDs
>     Hello Serge
>     Many times I said "the IQ+ don't decode" is the software who
>     decodes, if you are presenting just 20dB gain at the input of the
>     IQ+ then you are not following the specifications, you must have
>     at least 24dB, regarding WSJT, install WSJT10, I really don't
>     understand why people insist WSJT7 decode better, Joe already said
>     that many times.
>     Regards
>     73 de Alex, ZS6EME
>     *From:*moon-net-bounces at mailman.pe1itr.com
>     <mailto:moon-net-bounces at mailman.pe1itr.com>
>     [mailto:moon-net-bounces at mailman.pe1itr.com] *On Behalf Of *serge
>     *Sent:* Mittwoch, 2. November 2016 15:19
>     *To:* Peter Connors; moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com
>     *Subject:* Re: [Moon-Net] SPIDs
>     Peter & all GA
>     Just set up your rotor. Run to it good size shield wires. 80M is a
>     long length. Just measure the voltage at the end of the line with
>     the rotor hooked up & see if the voltage drops when you activate
>     your rotor with a load & adjust voltage accordingly. I do not know
>     what is the current is when rotor is activated but the controller
>     should provide the required voltage & available current at the
>     rotor. 240 feet of cable is long cable but it should work if a
>     good size cable is used. There is I believe 4 wires 2 for power &
>     2 for data.
>     GL Peter
>     Serge VE1KG
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:*Peter Connors <mailto:sronnocfp at gmail.com>
>         *To:*moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com
>         <mailto:moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com>
>         *Sent:*Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:57 PM
>         *Subject:*Re: [Moon-Net] SPIDs
>         This is of  interest to me because I am in the process of
>         assembling an eme station using the RAS with a ~80m cable run
>         so I have searched the internet (and the Moon-net archives
>         back to 2012 so far) for information. While there are
>         significant differences in systems that experience problems/no
>         problems there is no single definitive source of information
>         on 'the right way to do it'.
>         From what I have read, the difference in the outcome for
>         different stations appears to be affected by whether the RAS
>         is HR (which appears much less noise immune), the motor cable
>         size/resistance, power supply regulation, psu sharing between
>         the controller and the motors, the model of the controller,
>         the sensor cable construction and its screening/earthing. The
>         degree of mechanical imbalance/inertia in the array will also
>         affect the startup currents and thus the voltage drop and/or
>         noise spike in the system. Anything I have fogotten? Maybe the
>         firmware...
>         What one station will 'get away with' is not always replicated
>         by another with different system values, and the lack of a
>         full set of parameters can leave a Spid user in the dark.
>         Meanwhile, the information search turns up all sorts of useful
>         stuff - and its fun!
>         Pete, G4PLZ
>         On 02/11/2016 11:09, Bjorn wrote:
>             Some areas of interest pops up at an "even timesppread
>             basis", and has almost the same content every time. Maybe
>             creating an archive type of wiki would be a good plan?
>             But anyway, time for a repeat:
>             I am running approx 19V to my RAS/RAK rotators. Good
>             cabling (of course shielded) and good power/cabling in the
>             PS-line, No zeroing of directions at powr faults and no
>             problem starting both az/el at the same time. No lost
>             pulses. Be aware that the motor can take up to 10A in the
>             startup spike, so starting both at the same time = could
>             be up to 20A, if voltage drops too much = lost pulses.
>             73 de SM7SJR, Bjorn
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I dont do ESP QSO`s i prefere to hear the station.
CW is still King!!!!

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