It is simple Every EME-QSO in my Log is valid !! 73 Rick ,PA1BVM From: moon-net-bounces(a)mailman.pe1itr.com [mailto:moon-net-bounces@mailman.pe1itr.com] On Behalf Of Conrad PA5Y Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:56 PM To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com Subject: Re: [Moon-Net] WHAT MAKES A WSJT QSO VALID I thought that this was blindingly obvious, I have not seen many examples to the contrary, in fact I have seen it only once on my CQ. However I am a very small station and only get called by bigger more experienced stations so perhaps that is why? When it happened to me I responded with an O report as Serge suggested and all went well after that. 73 Conrad PA5Y On 24/08/2015 18:59, David Hilton-Jones wrote: Serge All correct! The error in the scenario you describe was the station calling you putting OOO at the end. That implies he has received both callsigns, which of course he hasn't done at that stage. He has only received yours. If he correctly responded with just both callsigns, then you would send OOO, receive RO from him, and you could finish with RRR or 73. You correctly describe how you can correct his mistake - you respond with both callsigns and OOO, to re-establish the correct order of things. So to keep the message simple - when replying to a CQ, sned only both callsigns. David, G4YTL From: moon-net-bounces@mailman.pe1itr.com<mailto:moon-net-bounces@mailman.pe1itr.com> [mailto:moon-net-bounces@mailman.pe1itr.com] On Behalf Of serge Sent: 24 August 2015 17:44 To: moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> Cc: moon@moonbounce.info<mailto:moon@moonbounce.info> Subject: [Moon-Net] WHAT MAKES A WSJT QSO VALID Hello friends It is confession time A good friend of mine recently reminded me what makes a JT QSO a VALID QSO. Lately I have started focusing on small stations or at least smaller than my station. & am having great fun. I also have noticed more & more I am getting on MY CQ this ve1kg XXXX OOO to which I responded a few time with RO & then 73 that is NOT a valid QSO. What needs to be done is that BOTH calls are sent by each STATION. So i should have sent instead of RO? the following XXXXX VE1KG OOO then i should have received RO I was the station calling CQ. The reason than small stations do this is simply because it easier to decode RO'S than XXXX VE1KG OOO I know this has been covered By Lance W7GJ for 6M but it also makes a lot sense for 2M if you are face with that situation. It is just a reminder to the NEW stations, that we are getting in the DX EXPEDITION season & to respect the protocol. I will also stop sending RO'S WHEN I CALL CQ. Also thank you to my friend to remind me of the protocol which I have somehow ignored at times Serge VE1KG _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html -- The information contained in this communication and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged, and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. Unless explicitly stated otherwise in the body of this communication or the attachment thereto (if any), the information is provided on an AS-IS basis without any express or implied warranties or liabilities. To the extent you are relying on this information, you are doing so at your own risk. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. The sender nor the company/group of companies he or she represents shall be liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, or for any delay in its receipt.

Thanks Serge  I have seen this in my 2 meter EME operation, But I don't respond with RO  I do send TX2  and if they are seeing/hearing me they will respond with the appropriate answer, As I watch the JT65 on HF  I see 50 % of QSOs that do not have all the needed parts to make a QSO...seems just a quick step to finish, I guess instant gratification..and only we can stop this spread to VHF...Also I see the station that just mimics what was sent, I guess these just need to read the book....Have a nice day , all ray   WA4NJP On Monday, August 24, 2015 2:06 PM, Russ K2TXB &lt;k2txb(a)dxcc.com&gt; wrote: #yiv2462656546 #yiv2462656546 -- _filtered #yiv2462656546 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2462656546 #yiv2462656546 p.yiv2462656546MsoNormal, #yiv2462656546 li.yiv2462656546MsoNormal, #yiv2462656546 div.yiv2462656546MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2462656546 a:link, #yiv2462656546 span.yiv2462656546MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2462656546 a:visited, #yiv2462656546 span.yiv2462656546MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2462656546 span.yiv2462656546EmailStyle17 {color:#002060;text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2462656546 .yiv2462656546MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv2462656546 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2462656546 div.yiv2462656546WordSection1 {}#yiv2462656546 Hi Serge. If you receive OOO on a response to your CQ, simply ignore it and respond with both calls and your own OOO.  Then the other station must send RO, and you are back on track,  73, Russ K2TXB  From: Moon [mailto:moon-bounces@moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of serge Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:44 PM To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com Cc: moon(a)moonbounce.info Subject: [Moon] WHAT MAKES A WSJT QSO VALID  Hello friends It is confession timeA good friend of mine recently reminded me what makes a JT QSO a VALID QSO.    Lately  I have started focusing on small stations or at least smaller than my station. & am having great fun.I also have noticed  more & more I am getting on MY CQ  this   ve1kg XXXX  OOO to which I responded a few time with RO  & then 73 that is NOT a valid QSO. What needs to be done is that BOTH calls are sent by each STATION. So i should have sent instead of RO?  the followingXXXXX  VE1KG  OOO then i should have received RO I was the station calling CQ. The reason than small stations do this is simply because it easier to decode RO'S than XXXX VE1KG OOOI know this has been covered  By Lance  W7GJ for 6M but it also makes a lot sense for 2M if you are face with that situation. It is just a reminder to the NEW stations,  that we are getting in the DX EXPEDITION season & to respect the protocol.I will also stop sending RO'S WHEN I CALL CQ. Also thank you to my friend to remind me of the protocol which I have somehow  ignored at timesSerge VE1KG  _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html

Hi all, what is valid QSO is written at http://www.ok2kkw.com/iaru/iaru_vhf_managers_handbook_7.pdf (http://www.ok2kkw.com/iaru/iaru_vhf_managers_handbook_7.pdf) I agree with Russ, K2TXB, I do it in the same way.. 73 Matej, OK1TEH ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Ray Rector &lt;wa4njp(a)bellsouth.net&gt; Komu: Russ K2TXB &lt;k2txb(a)dxcc.com&gt;om>, 'serge' &lt;ve1kg(a)eastlink.ca&gt;ca>, moon-net@ mailman.pe1itr.com &lt;moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com&gt; Datum: 24. 8. 2015 21:43:27 Předmět: Re: [Moon] [Moon-Net] WHAT MAKES A WSJT QSO VALID " Thanks Serge   I have seen this in my 2 meter EME operation, But I don't respond with RO  I do send TX2  and if they are seeing/hearing me they will respond with the appropriate answer, As I watch the JT65 on HF  I see 50 % of QSOs that do not have all the needed parts to make a QSO...seems just a quick step to finish, I guess instant gratification..and only we can stop this spread to VHF...Also I see the station that just mimics what was sent, I guess these just need to read the book....Have a nice day , all  ray   WA4NJP On Monday, August 24, 2015 2:06 PM, Russ K2TXB &lt;k2txb(a)dxcc.com&gt; wrote: Hi Serge. If you receive OOO on a response to your CQ, simply ignore it and respond with both calls and your own OOO.  Then the other station must send RO, and you are back on track,   73, Russ K2TXB   From: Moon [mailto:moon-bounces@moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of serge Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:44 PM To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com Cc: moon(a)moonbounce.info Subject: [Moon] WHAT MAKES A WSJT QSO VALID   Hello friends It is confession time A good friend of mine recently reminded me what makes a JT QSO a VALID QSO.     Lately  I have started focusing on small stations or at least smaller than my station. & am having great fun. I also have noticed  more & more I am getting on MY CQ  this   ve1kg XXXX  OOO to which I responded a few time with RO  & then 73 that is NOT a valid QSO. What needs to be done is that BOTH calls are sent by each STATION. So i should have sent instead of RO?  the following XXXXX  VE1KG  OOO then i should have received RO I was the station calling CQ. The reason than small stations do this is simply because it easier to decode RO'S than XXXX VE1KG OOO I know this has been covered  By Lance  W7GJ for 6M but it also makes a lot sense for 2M if you are face with that situation. It is just a reminder to the NEW stations,  that we are getting in the DX EXPEDITION season & to respect the protocol. I will also stop sending RO'S WHEN I CALL CQ. Also thank you to my friend to remind me of the protocol which I have somehow  ignored at times Serge VE1KG   _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/ nets/moon-net-help.html(http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html) _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon(a)moonbounce.info http://lists.moonbounce.info/listinfo/moon"

Just a reminder hi http://www.darkside.cz/eme.php 73 Matej, OK1TEH ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: ok1teh Petrzilka &lt;ok1teh(a)seznam.cz&gt; Komu: moon(a)moonbounce.info Datum: 25. 8. 2015 21:21:54 Předmět: ARRL EME contest - 13cm & up " Hi all, just for an info, if you want to share info/qrl list about expected activity in next EME contest, you can always use for you announce -> http://www.darkside.cz/eme.php 73 Matej, OK1TEH "